2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby Bill McNeal » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:56 pm

joe table wrote:Some quick taeks from grinding the Packers tape on VDR:

-Wentz was lit
-Just stahp it with Mcgloin. Fire him into the sun
-Brett Hundley def has the Tommy Joseph old man face
-My man the WHITE SNAKE Gerry flashed a few times. Looks like a potential Fipp coverage psycho if nothing else
-Pumphrey is too small and slight. Hate to call it before his first pro carry but I don't see it as a RB at all. Stop w sproles comps, there is only 1 sproles


:lol: couldn't agree with that more. Rather have Sanchez back than that bag of hot garbage.
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby Bill McNeal » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:56 pm

Drew Magary's annual "why your team sucks" about the eagles.

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks ... 1797746673
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby Grotewold » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:41 pm

Bill McNeal wrote:
joe table wrote:Some quick taeks from grinding the Packers tape on VDR:

-Wentz was lit
-Just stahp it with Mcgloin. Fire him into the sun
-Brett Hundley def has the Tommy Joseph old man face
-My man the WHITE SNAKE Gerry flashed a few times. Looks like a potential Fipp coverage psycho if nothing else
-Pumphrey is too small and slight. Hate to call it before his first pro carry but I don't see it as a RB at all. Stop w sproles comps, there is only 1 sproles


:lol: couldn't agree with that more. Rather have Sanchez back than that bag of hot garbage.


Don't think I've never seen that many throws off a back foot and or across the body, not even in college
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby Philly the Kid » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:38 pm

The Eagles don't have a personality yet. I'd still rather have Desean and McCoy, but they are both going to fade sooner than later.

I think Dug is a place-holder, he's not a visionary and not a leader. Schwartz is a stabilizer and legit compared to a Billy Davis-type - but let's see if he can get these guy to a top 5 level?

I didn't see much that would indicate the roster and starters will change much from what we expect.

McGloin is a classic 3rd stringer - not really a "Pro QB" - and only because Foles who I would have liked to see again - was out - we had to suffer almost an entire game of him.

Pumphrey only looked dangerous on that one PR, when the penalty was called. Clement and Brown the TE are PS material. Dreggs is a 5th or 6th WR, but Mack Collins and the good signs in practice from Agholor and him being in his last rookie contract year are what brought us to J Math getting traded. I have no issue with it. He's a nice player. Nothing wrong but he's not a stud super-star. And given how thin we are at corner and Sidney Jones all effectively have his rookie season next year - (he'll know his teammates and film study etc... but won't have actually played) - so it was a nice bet. I don't care they threw in the 3rd because we got a harder position to fill - and it was 2 former 2nd rounders for each other but ours was on an expiring contact and so we had to give a little more. Rather it have been a 4th but it was it is.

If Darby and Jones, become the tandem for even 5 solid years.

Gerry looked more like a S than a LB. Kendricks is still better than guys like that.

Barnett looked legit. I think we finally got one right with a mid 1st round pick! Whoohoo.

Patrick Robinson looked small and didn't stand out - CJ Smith and Mills play hard tackle but not sure they can cover? Means is mean and plays hard. Chris Long looked like Barwin in build - but he's situational

Hope Vitai is ok? He could be a starter some day and a great backup for a team with a 34 year old LT.

R Brooks, hurt again? Geez.

I didn't see anyone other than Mack Collins and Derek Barnett of rookies that we'll see a lot of this year.

My biggest questions won't be answered in pre-season:

-- Is Kelce good enough?
-- Does Torrey Smith have anything left?
-- Is Carson really a winner?
-- Is Dug a placeholder or a real coach
-- Will Schwartz blitz more?
-- Do we have any improvement in corner play?

I think the pieces the Birds need to acquire in next two offseason, drafts, FA - are RB, another DE to pair with Barnett who could beast, corner depth in case Darby and Jones don't pan out, OT, never can have too many --

We have some good players. We pass too much, but without Shady, so it goes...

NOTHING bothers me more in the failure of the past few years than losing the enjoyment of seeing Shady McCoy become a 10K yard RB and spend his entire career here in Phila. - I'll never forgive Chip and brass for that. Desean too. But we need our next RB. Zeke got suspended but that guy is going to be a problem for many years to come. We need our guy. Will Pitt let Le'veon Bell go?

Anyway - fun to see them play - even pre-season. Nothing much of note.

Let's give Agholor a chance in these next 3 games to show he can be a slot man - and Mack just keep bringing it rook!

Magary hit piece - makes me want to give chump a beat down and I haven't even lived in Philly for 30+ years...
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby Grotewold » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:43 pm

Exhibit Z why you read KID posts all the way to the end
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby The Savior » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:12 pm

We gave up a 3rd for a starting, controllable #2 corner. Think that's a fair deal.

Love JMatt - great guy, several fond memories like the DALLAS WALKOFF. But he's limited and much less of a need when you add guys like smith and Alston who are big targets.
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby MoBettle » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:07 pm

Grotewold wrote:Exhibit Z why you read KID posts all the way to the end

That's some good kid.
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:41 am

Bill McNeal wrote:Drew Magary's annual "why your team sucks" about the eagles.

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks ... 1797746673


The card system did suck. He's wrong.
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby PSUsarge » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:26 am

Not Magary's best work at all. Granted this team is boring and the fan base (and city as a whole) has definitely evolved to some degree, but still, didn't get as many laughs as in years past from that.

The faux Wentz outrage baffles me. Maybe I'm just one of the blind Eagles fans he refers to.
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby my cousin mose » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:48 am

Probably tough doing the same damn schtick year after year too
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby PSUsarge » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:19 pm

Also true. And lazy outdated cliches play to the national audience, so I get it. My biggest criticism of our fan base (provinciality) really doesn't have relevant punchlines outside of people who follow Philly sports.
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby TenuredVulture » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:22 pm

The "your team sucks" is old and tired, but at least they're shorter. Margary seems to be letting fans do most of the writing. Its time to move on.
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby Bill McNeal » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:37 pm

PSUsarge wrote:
The faux Wentz outrage baffles me. Maybe I'm just one of the blind Eagles fans he refers to.


I think you are reading too much into it. The point is to completely trash everything no matter if it really makes sense or not. This is from the rams edition
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby mozartpc27 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:01 pm

CalvinBall wrote:
Bill McNeal wrote:Drew Magary's annual "why your team sucks" about the eagles.

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks ... 1797746673


The card system did suck. He's wrong.


Drew Magary wrote:Meanwhile, Wentz’s game log from last season read like someone charted declining literacy rates in Bridesburg. He was the Second Coming for three games and then proceeded to suck. If he were black, people would have said they finally got tape on him. But because he’s white and hunts, he’ll get another 15 years to prove himself. Bible-humping jackass.


There's some exaggerating here for comedic effect (15 years), but this feels like a fair point to me tbh.
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby Grotewold » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:37 pm

I don't recall public opinion turning against McNabb in his up and down rookie year; in fact it was a lot of the same new coach, no weapons rationale.

But I know it's super important Magary cobble an article together
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby PSUsarge » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:50 pm

Bill McNeal wrote:
PSUsarge wrote:
The faux Wentz outrage baffles me. Maybe I'm just one of the blind Eagles fans he refers to.


I think you are reading too much into it. The point is to completely trash everything no matter if it really makes sense or not.

when it comes to this, yes.

I should have clarified but also referring to the constant offseason BS on 97.5 and WIP (i know, i know, consider the source) about his religion and demeanor and such.

The season just needs to get here already.
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby BigEd76 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:59 pm

New numberzzz:

Blount = 29
Darby = 35
T.Brooks = 24 (d)
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby Coste2Coste » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:04 pm

Steven Daniels released. WR Keevan Lucas from Tulsa signed.
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Re: 2017 Eagles Training Camp/Preseason

Postby Grotewold » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:03 pm

Highlight of my practice experience was Poppa's and Dillon Gordon's nonverbal reactions to certain rap songs
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