2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby Ace Rothstein » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:25 pm

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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:34 pm

mtcal wrote:
PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:My New Top 10 Prospects:

1) Scott Kingery
2) Mickey Moniak
3) JP Crawford
4) Sixto Sanchez
5) Adam Haseley
6) Rhys Hoskins
7) Jorge Alfaro
8) Nick Williams
9) Franklin Kilome
10) Dylan Cozens


1 - still that high on jp?
2 - lack of pitchers is quite troubling


1 - yes, I think JPC struggles aren't do to talent and he'll figure it out. I don't think he'll be a perennial all-star but an above average regular.
2 - Kilome is the only pitcher above low A that has #3 potential, not good
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby BigEd76 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:56 pm

LV gave up 10 in the 9th to lose 17-9
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby Shore » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:28 am

In 2016, in 551 PA across AA and AAA, Crawford hit .250/.349/.339
In 2017 so far, in 244 PA in AAA, he's hitting .194/.313/.252

Combined, that's a .233 avg and .313 slg in almost 800 PA. In the minor leagues.

Over the same time period, no major league SS with 700 PA (there are 22 of them) has slugged under .324 (Alcides Escobar) and 16 of the 22 are over .400. Only Danny Espinosa has a batting average that low (.199).

IF it's not due to talent, then what's the cause? An injury? Mental health?

At this point, he's a downgrade from Galvis.
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby Titlehungry » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:54 am

Maybe we should start thinking about moving Hernandez to SS
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby azrider » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:18 am

PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:
mtcal wrote:
PSUPhilliesPhan wrote:My New Top 10 Prospects:

1) Scott Kingery
2) Mickey Moniak
3) JP Crawford
4) Sixto Sanchez
5) Adam Haseley
6) Rhys Hoskins
7) Jorge Alfaro
8) Nick Williams
9) Franklin Kilome
10) Dylan Cozens


1 - still that high on jp?
2 - lack of pitchers is quite troubling




1 - yes, I think JPC struggles aren't do to talent and he'll figure it out. I don't think he'll be a perennial all-star but an above average regular.
2 - Kilome is the only pitcher above low A that has #3 potential, not good


Pretty much agree with your list. However, I wouldn't sleep on drew Anderson. I think he comes in at solid #3 potential. He had a rough start to begin AA, but has posted very good numbers like a whip just above 1 and a k rate around 8.5 for 9 over his last 11 starts. His stuff I believe, comes in just below kilome and sixto with the solid mid 90s fast ball and good curve with a decent change. There are still some issues with location though.
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby PSUPhilliesPhan » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:11 am

I like Drew Anderson a lot. However, everything I read says 4/5 guy or good bullpen arm for the reasons you mentioned. That's valuable and something we hardly had a few years ago. I mean we literally we're throwing out John Lannan, Kevin Correia and Jerome Williams types.
Hopefully, one of these guys puts it together and becomes a mid-rotation arm or better.
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby Warszawa » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:17 am

Shore wrote:In 2016, in 551 PA across AA and AAA, Crawford hit .250/.349/.339
In 2017 so far, in 244 PA in AAA, he's hitting .194/.313/.252

Combined, that's a .233 avg and .313 slg in almost 800 PA. In the minor leagues.

Over the same time period, no major league SS with 700 PA (there are 22 of them) has slugged under .324 (Alcides Escobar) and 16 of the 22 are over .400. Only Danny Espinosa has a batting average that low (.199).

IF it's not due to talent, then what's the cause? An injury? Mental health?

At this point, he's a downgrade from Galvis.


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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby pacino » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:50 am

He doesn't meet the ball. He lets it almost get past him before he swings. He might be TOO patient.

I continue to believe in JP and think a good hitting coach could correct him.
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby Squire » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:00 pm

Technically I think Nick Pivetta still has prospect eligibility for list purposes. He'd be in the 6-10 range for me. Probably ahead of Kilome for me.
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby ReadingPhilly » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:46 pm

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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby pacino » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:48 pm

it will be crazy when 2000 is on birthdates for baseball players
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby mtcal » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:58 pm

this is the wrong thread. whoops. go young future phillies.
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby pacino » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:00 pm

in before the delete
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby BigEd76 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:02 pm

Obviously the Cutters roster will change as draft picks are signed, but as of now:

Down from Clearwater = Rivero
Down from Lakewood = Alastre
Repeating Williamsport = Encarnacion, Luis, Garcia, Kelzer
Up from GCL = Stobbe (#14), Ortiz (#20), Stephen, Pickett, Matos, Duran, Alcantara, Brown, Frohwirth, Carrasco, Miller, Nunez, Stewart, Young
Trade from GCL Marlins = Lovett
Up from DSL = Henriquez, Guzman, Armas, Melendez, Ramirez

Gowdy (#8) should be on the team too but he's rehabbing
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby ReadingPhilly » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:17 pm

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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby pacino » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:22 pm

LV is on wfmz if you have it
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby ReadingPhilly » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:23 pm

pacino wrote:LV is on wfmz if you have it


hmm i'm watching on channel 100 whatever the hell that is. seem to have a lot of pigs and phantoms games on.
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby pacino » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:27 pm

792 for me, but I have comcast
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Re: 2017 Minor League Discussion: June 12-18

Postby pacino » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:28 pm

These are the ugliest uniforms
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