Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby Grotewold » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:49 am

Eem wrote:Keith Law, who literally thinks with a prospect-laden brain, thinks it was a good trade


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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby TempleFan22 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:06 am

Grotewold wrote:
Eem wrote:Keith Law, who literally thinks with a prospect-laden brain, thinks it was a good trade


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Can you post his write up?
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby phorever » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:26 am

according to fangraphs depth charts projections, phillies have traded away 4.9 expected 2019 fwar this offseason... but brought in new players worth 10.9 expected fwar. that's 6 wins of improvement, worth over $50million fa dollars. coincidentally, they've taken on almost exactly $50million in salary for new players, but traded away about $20million.
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby SwingOnThis » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:28 am

Scott Lauber on the Stolnis podcast said that they Phillies were concerned about Sixto's conditioning and had questions about his 'makeup'. Said they value Medina possibly more as a prospect.
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby jamiethekiller » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:00 am

TINSTAAP.

i'll believe in Sixto when he can string a few seasons together in the minors. Until then he's just an asset to move on from.
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby my cousin mose » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:06 am

jamiethekiller wrote:TINSTAAP.


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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:19 am

SwingOnThis wrote:Scott Lauber on the Stolnis podcast said that they Phillies were concerned about Sixto's conditioning and had questions about his 'makeup'. Said they value Medina possibly more as a prospect.


His makeup? Now minor leaguers are wearing makeup?
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby cartersDad26 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:22 am

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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby thephan » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:34 am

phorever wrote:according to fangraphs depth charts projections, phillies have traded away 4.9 expected 2019 fwar this offseason... but brought in new players worth 10.9 expected fwar. that's 6 wins of improvement, worth over $50million fa dollars. coincidentally, they've taken on almost exactly $50million in salary for new players, but traded away about $20million.


The idea that a win is worth over 8.3M is brain bending. Then again, if we continue imaginary math, that $20M traded away means the team got a deal.
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby WhiteyFan » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:36 am

SwingOnThis wrote:Scott Lauber on the Stolnis podcast said that they Phillies were concerned about Sixto's conditioning and had questions about his 'makeup'. Said they value Medina possibly more as a prospect.


Im glad to read this. He seems like a long-shot to ever be a workhorse 150-200 inning guy you can count on. Not gonna miss Alfaro at all. Other guy was a lottery ticket. Good trade.
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby Slowhand » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:55 am

Question for those who follow the minors more closely. Any thoughts on why Sixto’s strikeouts are so (relatively) low? I know he was very young for where he was pitching, but if you’re throwing THAT hard at such a low level, it seems to me you’d have at least a strikeout an inning without even trying. I get that he’s not throwing 100 on every pitch, but still it’s a bit surprising that his numbers aren’t particularly eye popping.
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby Squire » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:58 am

Slowhand wrote:Question for those who follow the minors more closely. Any thoughts on why Sixto’s strikeouts are so (relatively) low? I know he was very young for where he was pitching, but if you’re throwing THAT hard at such a low level, it seems to me you’d have at least a strikeout an inning without even trying. I get that he’s not throwing 100 on every pitch, but still it’s a bit surprising that his numbers aren’t particularly eye popping.


My understanding is that he had a great fastball and great fastball command but that his secondaries weren't great (or maybe even average). I think I remember Law saying this.
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby Uncle Milty » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:13 am

With the fastball at his level of proficiency I think there was also emphasis on working secondary pitches into game action.
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby phorever » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:15 am

just glanced through the comment threads about the trade over at thegoodphight. i'm shocked by how much that community hates the trade. pretty much a whole blog group with the same take as mattwinks.

for those folks it's as if the injuries to sixto last year and all of alfaro's whiffs didn't even happen.

i think fangraphs got it right: alfaro and sanchez combine to have a spectacularly wide range of likely outcomes for their careers. both have multiple 70+ tools, but alfaro has an extremely worrisome strike zone issue and sixto has an extremely worrisome health/fitness/size issue. if the phillies expect to sign one of harper/machado they are in a win-now position for which it makes perfect sense to trade away a huge upside+risk player combo for an upper division up-the-middle mlb starter in his prime with two years left of control.

if sixto had stayed healthy last season, or at least returned relatively quickly from his injury, i would feel very differently about the amount of risk associated with keeping him. but he didn't.
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby Bucky » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:19 am

i love alf, but his frequent inability to catch pitches throws a big red flag to me. sure, others are telling me he only converted to C in the minors, give him a chance...but i'm not convinced that that's something that would improve with time. it's kind of a common skill to all players.
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby phillychuck » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:19 am

Squire wrote:
Slowhand wrote:Question for those who follow the minors more closely. Any thoughts on why Sixto’s strikeouts are so (relatively) low? I know he was very young for where he was pitching, but if you’re throwing THAT hard at such a low level, it seems to me you’d have at least a strikeout an inning without even trying. I get that he’s not throwing 100 on every pitch, but still it’s a bit surprising that his numbers aren’t particularly eye popping.


My understanding is that he had a great fastball and great fastball command but that his secondaries weren't great (or maybe even average). I think I remember Law saying this.


This is correct, until his last 4 starts last season he really had no decent secondary pitch. Pro hitters will put fastballs into play, even at 103 mph. His biggest improvement in his last 4 starts is he began throwing a slider which graded out at a 70 (some said 80) on the 20-80 scouting scale. Nobody hit it. If he stays healthy and doesn't lose the slider he's going to be Pedro II.
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby azrider » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:47 am

Bucky wrote:i love alf, but his frequent inability to catch pitches throws a big red flag to me. sure, others are telling me he only converted to C in the minors, give him a chance...but i'm not convinced that that's something that would improve with time. it's kind of a common skill to all players.


i agree, the passed balls, the wild pitches...

he's been catching AND playing professional baseball since 17. i think it's the same age mike lieberthal and i think even chooch made the switch. it's not like he was going to school or anything at the time.

i also had issues with him maintaining the babip and his 70 power that never seemed to quite translate into the game.
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby heyeaglefn » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:33 am

Jon Heyman

Realmuto and Marlins were about $100M apart in contract negotiations early this winter. Marlins started at about $60M for 5 yrs plus option (comps for 16M in the 3 free agent years were Martin, McCann deals) while Realmuto camp sought about Posey money (Posey deal was 167M).
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby joboggi » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:45 pm

Key alfaro stat

BABIP through the roof.
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Re: Is this Realmuto life? Phillies acquire JT

Postby Rev_Beezer » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:51 pm

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