The Tommy John Surgery Thread

The Tommy John Surgery Thread

Postby Warszawa » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:11 am

I was watching TWIB yesterday and they were having a special on TJ surgery. Among others, they focused on Tim Hudson. One of the scary things of this injury is there sometime appears to be no warning. In Hudson's case he did't even know what was going on when the injury occurred and he pitched the rest of the game with it. One day you are out there pitching and the next.....boom! out for a year. I was thinking if throwing a slider had anything to do with the prevalence of the injury as it seems like most pitchers who have the injury throw a slider. Or maybe its just mechanics as well?

I was going to recommend that Hamels junk his stupid curve and start throwing a slider but now I don't know...
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Postby BigEd76 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:04 pm

Is this the new ongoing thread for TJ recipients?

Latest victim: Jordan Zimmermann (and he might be out all of 2010 too)


[2009]--------------------------------
8/3 = Edinson Volquez
7/14 = Tyler Yates
7/8 = Xavier Nady
7/2 = Neal Cotts
6/30 = Josh Outman
6/24 = Shawn Hill
6/17 = Taylor Buchholz
6/12 = Jesse Litsch
5/12 = Scott Proctor
5/12 = Jimmy Barthmaier

[2008]--------------------------------
11/18 = Pat Neshek
10/31 = Casey Weathers
10/26 = Tyler Colvin
9/30 = Shaun Marcum
9/10 = Billy Wanger
8/8 = Tim Hudson
6/10 = Jake Westbrook
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Postby Kman223 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:45 am

I actually just saw a dr today who told me I need it. I hurt it playing baseball this year, but pitched with it the entire season. It hurts like all hell when warming up and stuff, but once the tolerance and adrenaline kick in it is less noticeable. Granted, im not in a professional league where I have to worry about losing velocity. Scheduled for surgery next month...
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Postby seke2 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:25 am

Don't you usually see a pretty substantial velocity dropoff for guys who need it? I remember being there for Wolfie's last game before his TJ, and he was pitching pretty well but his velocity was was down (like low-mid 80's instead of high 80's) and I knew something was wrong. For guys who have a clear track record and you know exactly how hard they usually throw, its pretty obvious that they aren't 100% right when suddenly they're 5+ MPH slower.
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Postby thephan » Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:07 am

8/10 - Jordan Zimmerman - Nationals
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Postby phatj » Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:41 am

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Postby mozartpc27 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:52 pm

thephan wrote:8/10 - Jordan Zimmerman - Nationals


Man, that didn't take long.
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Postby smitty » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:11 pm

seke2 wrote:Don't you usually see a pretty substantial velocity dropoff for guys who need it? I remember being there for Wolfie's last game before his TJ, and he was pitching pretty well but his velocity was was down (like low-mid 80's instead of high 80's) and I knew something was wrong. For guys who have a clear track record and you know exactly how hard they usually throw, its pretty obvious that they aren't 100% right when suddenly they're 5+ MPH slower.


I thought I read somewhere that a rule of thumb was loss of velocity indicated shoulder and loss of command/control indicated elbow. It seems to me that I would have read that in a Will Carroll column.
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Postby philliesr98 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:17 pm

smitty wrote:
seke2 wrote:Don't you usually see a pretty substantial velocity dropoff for guys who need it? I remember being there for Wolfie's last game before his TJ, and he was pitching pretty well but his velocity was was down (like low-mid 80's instead of high 80's) and I knew something was wrong. For guys who have a clear track record and you know exactly how hard they usually throw, its pretty obvious that they aren't 100% right when suddenly they're 5+ MPH slower.


I thought I read somewhere that a rule of thumb was loss of velocity indicated shoulder and loss of command/control indicated elbow. It seems to me that I would have read that in a Will Carroll column.


That sounds more like a rule of dumb :)
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Postby smitty » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:27 pm

philliesr98 wrote:
smitty wrote:
seke2 wrote:Don't you usually see a pretty substantial velocity dropoff for guys who need it? I remember being there for Wolfie's last game before his TJ, and he was pitching pretty well but his velocity was was down (like low-mid 80's instead of high 80's) and I knew something was wrong. For guys who have a clear track record and you know exactly how hard they usually throw, its pretty obvious that they aren't 100% right when suddenly they're 5+ MPH slower.


I thought I read somewhere that a rule of thumb was loss of velocity indicated shoulder and loss of command/control indicated elbow. It seems to me that I would have read that in a Will Carroll column.


That sounds more like a rule of dumb :)


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Postby BigEd76 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:22 am

[2010]--------------------------------
12/1 = Jamie Moyer
9/3 = John Baker
9/3 = Stephen Strasburg
8/18 = Kris Medlen
3/26 = Joe Nathan
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Re: The Tommy John Surgery Thread

Postby BigEd76 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:53 pm

Bringing this one back from the dead since another one was added today

[2011]-----------------------------
TBD = Kyle Gibson
9/6 = Juan Gutierrez
8/12 = Zack Cozart
8/9 = Rubby De La Rosa
8/5 = Brad Hawpe
7/22 = David Aardsma
7/15 = Carlos Monasterios
7/14 = Brett Anderson
7/7 = Adam O'Neill
6/16 = Joba Chamberlain
6/15 = Daisuke Matsuzaka
6/10 = Robert Whitenack
6/9 = Rich Hill
6/3 = Jorge De La Rosa
6/3 = John Lamb
6/1 = Mason Tobin
5/31 = Drew Naylor
5/18 = Cam Bedrosian
5/11 = Stephen Marek
5/9 = Jenrry Mejia
4/14 = Boof Bonser
3/2 = Cla Meredith
2/28 = Adam Wainwright
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Re: The Tommy John Surgery Thread

Postby FTN » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:55 pm

Jim Callis will still rank Kyle Gibson in his top 20 prospects heading in to 2012.
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Re: The Tommy John Surgery Thread

Postby 5th Round Pick » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:44 am

Can't wait to see how Jamie Moyer's bionic arm works.
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Re: The Tommy John Surgery Thread

Postby stevemc » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:11 am

5th Round Pick wrote:Can't wait to see how Jamie Moyer's bionic arm works.



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Re: The Tommy John Surgery Thread

Postby Barry Jive » Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:54 pm

did he just say funky butt loving?
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Re: The Tommy John Surgery Thread

Postby lowcountry » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:44 pm

Total threadjack, but shouldn't Dr. Frank Jobe be in the Hall of Fame? How many careers has that guy saved?
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Re: The Tommy John Surgery Thread

Postby BigEd76 » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:17 pm

9/14 = Carlos Carrasco

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Re: The Tommy John Surgery Thread

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:59 pm

11/1 = John Lackey
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Re: The Tommy John Surgery Thread

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:05 pm

3/20 = Arodys Vizcaino (Braves #2 prospect)
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