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Postby Werthless » Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:45 pm

I realize that. But people can still still campaign mercilessly in the BSG vote against people that drafted flukes for the 1 year stats.
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Postby ConnieMack » Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:48 pm

Werthless wrote:I realize that. But people can still still campaign mercilessly in the BSG vote against people that drafted flukes for the 1 year stats.


I agree, in fact I think they should campaign against any that have less than 2 seasons of MLB time . :-D

After this plays out, we should do another , with only players from 1980 and before eligible to be drafted.
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Postby Werthless » Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:56 pm

I think it'll be amusing to look back in a couple years on this draft and reevaluate some of the younger players that were drafted, like Lincecum, Longoria, Chamberlain, Liriano, Devine, Ziegler, etc.

Edit: As they say on Sesame Street, one of these things is not like the other.

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Postby ConnieMack » Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:59 pm

Werthless wrote:I think it'll be amusing to look back in a couple years on this draft and reevaluate some of the younger players that were drafted, like Lincecum, Longoria, Chamberlain, Liriano, Devine, Ziegler, etc.


At least one will turn out to be a Joe Charboneau. :-D

http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/charbjo01.shtml
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Postby Werthless » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:00 pm

How about a Dontrelle Willis?
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Postby ConnieMack » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:06 pm

Werthless wrote:How about a Dontrelle Willis?


Yea, Willis really lost it, but Charboneau trumps him in that dept. LOL....Rookie of the year at age 25, out of baseball 2 years later... :?
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Postby philliesphhan » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:15 pm

I feel bad for Willis. That old man McKeon abused the hell out of him.
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Postby Werthless » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:18 pm

Other nominees in the "My career year was my rookie year:"

Pat Listach

Bob Hamelin

Angel Berroa, although he wasn't that good to begin with.
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Postby kruker » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:21 pm

I didn't notice the Carlos Guillen pick until now. Nice under the radar pick, I bounced the idea of picking him around earlier in the draft.
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Postby AndyMusser » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:54 pm

sorry for the delay, pick made
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Postby kruker » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:45 pm

I had Shore pegged for Larry Dierker or Davey Johnson after I picked Weaver.
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Postby Bakestar » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:01 pm

Yeah, I wanted Davey J., but whatever.

I was going to take John McGraw but I thought the Giants/McGraw thing would've been a little too cute, and I also feared what a pre-1947 manager would have to say to some of the guys on my team...
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Postby kruker » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:07 pm

I bounced the idea of C. Montgomery Burns around. He's got a great relationship with Strawberry.

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Postby Werthless » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:42 am

So, everyone have a nice weekend?
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Postby philliesphhan » Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:15 pm

ha, yes
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Postby wogglymaster91 » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:15 pm

So what's going on with this? Is it still happening?
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Postby Werthless » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:49 pm

wogglymaster91 wrote:So what's going on with this? Is it still happening?

Yes.
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Postby Werthless » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:01 pm

ucancallmedavis wrote:Exactly, I have been using the neutralized ERA and whip. That is first and foremost when creating the new player on the software as they are obviously the most influential statistics of any. So I keep those 100 percent accurate. From there, I adjust the 162 W/L total accordingly by the Neutralized career win percentage, and fill in the rest of the Neutralized statistics by using IP/(strikeout, walk, HR, etc) ratios. This way even though it is not an exact 162 average, we do come up with a historical accuracy in that the IP ratios will be accurate.

This I have found is the best method. If anyone see flaws in my madness, please let me know, though dare I say it is a little late to go back now. Obviously not an exact science, only meant to have fun. But thanks for you questions, Ill be happy to answer anymore or elaborate on what I am doing deeper.

How's the progress on this going?
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Postby ucancallmedavis » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:24 pm

Werthless wrote:
ucancallmedavis wrote:Exactly, I have been using the neutralized ERA and whip. That is first and foremost when creating the new player on the software as they are obviously the most influential statistics of any. So I keep those 100 percent accurate. From there, I adjust the 162 W/L total accordingly by the Neutralized career win percentage, and fill in the rest of the Neutralized statistics by using IP/(strikeout, walk, HR, etc) ratios. This way even though it is not an exact 162 average, we do come up with a historical accuracy in that the IP ratios will be accurate.

This I have found is the best method. If anyone see flaws in my madness, please let me know, though dare I say it is a little late to go back now. Obviously not an exact science, only meant to have fun. But thanks for you questions, Ill be happy to answer anymore or elaborate on what I am doing deeper.

How's the progress on this going?


Slow and steady, it takes awhile to do, but I have a few teams in now and have been playing with it making adjustments. Hit a little snag last week that slowed me up in that it was my wedding anniversary, haha, but I think I can have it ready to go in about a month. Is everyone cool with waiting a little bit longer? Sorry it is not done yet, it is just real mind numbing and I can only knock so much of it out per day. Lol.

EDIT: Maybe 20 days, that would put us ready to sim March 1.
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Postby Werthless » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:46 am

1) Are we voting on this soon?

2) Sim schedule looks good.

3) Does anyone here want to join a fantasy baseball league?
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