[Post Draft Review] --> Shore

[Post Draft Review] --> Shore

Postby FTN » Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:28 pm

Cleveland Indians
Manager: Davey Johnson

C - Roy Campanella
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Chase Utley
3B - Wade Boggs
SS - Alex Rodriguez
OF - Rickey Henderson
OF - Larry Walker
OF - Jim Edmonds

C - Dick Dietz
CI - Will Clark
MI - Ian Kinsler
OF - Frank Howard
OF - Kevin Mitchell

SP - Ed Walsh
SP - Don Drysdale
SP - Bret Saberhagen
SP - Tim Hudson
SP - Carlos Zambrano

RP - Joe Nathan
RP - Mike Gonzalez
RP - Takashi Saito
RP - Jose Valverde
RP - Joey Devine
RP - Pat Neshek
RP - Jeff Zimmerman
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Postby Werthless » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:42 pm

I like the youth of your staff, as they've still got a lot of life left in their arms. I even think Zimmerman may be preparing a return from his forced retirement. I also really like the pick of Dietz. He was very healthy during his 1970 season; it was so tough for him to get AB's otherwise!
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Postby Warszawa » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:16 pm

I can't endorse a team with Jim Edmonds starting.

A dead-baller as your ace? hurm.
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Postby Shore » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:39 pm

Five things:

1) I didn't set a "lineup".
2) I didn't set a "rotation".
3) There are like 4 people whose opinions would matter to me; none of them have posted in this thread.
4) Jim Edmonds is 60th all time in OPS, and has 8 Gold Gloves.
5) Rules are rules. Had relief pitchers with limited experience been discouraged by rule (say, a minimum # of innings), I wouldn't have the same bullpen. As it stands, there's NO WAY anyone's bullpen has a ERA+ near mine. Not even close.
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Postby kruker » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:24 am

Shore wrote:5) Rules are rules. Had relief pitchers with limited experience been discouraged by rule (say, a minimum # of innings), I wouldn't have the same bullpen. As it stands, there's NO WAY anyone's bullpen has a ERA+ near mine. Not even close.


It's comparable to taking advantage of a video game glitch to win, then bragging about it. I've got no problem with it, because I don't think you did anything wrong nor do I really care since this was a really fun thing to do. I just think it's kind of weird to admit to wanting to take advantage of a flaw in a simulation with nothing on the line.

About your team: I love it. In hindsight, I should have taken Pujols ahead of Morgan, but I figured it would be much tougher to get a top 2nd baseman than 1st baseman. There are 4-5 guys on your roster that I was going to pick the round you went with them, the entire first round I was hoping for A-Rod to slip through.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:37 am

You aren't Floppy or MattS. Shore doesn't care. He gon' win, don't you see?

Also he may, if you are lucky, suggest for you to fellate someone.

Edit: Well if you're going to edit your comment to be nice, mine starts to look really dumb, now doesn't it. (Not that it looked good to begin with)
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Postby kruker » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:52 am

Truthfully, I had the edit window open and typing when you posted yours, it took some time to type since I was perusing the draft order in another tab, so I didn't see what you posted until my edit was finished.
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Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:06 am

You mean the world doesn't revolve around me? Damn.

That team is quite good. I mean, it has Chase Utley on it.
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Postby Shore » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:45 am

Another really, really cool feature of Baseball Reference is the "Link Players" feature. You paste in text that has player names in it - a blog post, for example, and click a button, and it turns the names into links. You can either have HTML, or "baseball think factory" format, which I believe is the same as phpbb. If I take floppy's list for my team above, and do it in the bbtf format, I get:
Cleveland Indians
Manager: Davey Johnson

C - Roy Campanella
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Chase Utley
3B - Wade Boggs
SS - Alex Rodriguez
OF - Rickey Henderson
OF - Larry Walker
OF - Jim Edmonds

C - Dick Dietz
CI - Will Clark
MI - Ian Kinsler
OF - Frank Howard
OF - Kevin Mitchell

SP - Ed Walsh
SP - Don Drysdale
SP - Bret Saberhagen
SP - Tim Hudson
SP - Carlos Zambrano

RP - Joe Nathan
RP - Mike Gonzalez
RP - Takashi Saito
RP - Jose Valverde
RP - Joey Devine
RP - Pat Neshek
RP - Jeff Zimmerman

That's just cool. Here's the tool.
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Postby Shore » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:57 am

jerseyhoya wrote:You aren't Floppy or MattS. Shore doesn't care. He gon' win, don't you see?

Also he may, if you are lucky, suggest for you to fellate someone.


I like that playing to win, despite consequences, is simply acting rationally in politics, but in something as important as a message board fantasy draft, it's unbecoming.

I'm definitely one of jerseyhoya's favorite posters.
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Postby Shore » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:01 am

kruker wrote:About your team: I love it. In hindsight, I should have taken Pujols ahead of Morgan, but I figured it would be much tougher to get a top 2nd baseman than 1st baseman. There are 4-5 guys on your roster that I was going to pick the round you went with them, the entire first round I was hoping for A-Rod to slip through.


You ripped Webb, KBrown, Eck, at least 2 others, right out of my freaking hands. I like your team, mostly because I would have picked half of them had they lasted to me.
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Postby Werthless » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:05 pm

Shore wrote:5) Rules are rules. Had relief pitchers with limited experience been discouraged by rule (say, a minimum # of innings), I wouldn't have the same bullpen. As it stands, there's NO WAY anyone's bullpen has a ERA+ near mine. Not even close.

And that will help you in the sim, and hurt you in the vote. I like how you profess "I don't care about the vote," as a preemptive excuse in case your team isn't liked by others.

My bullpen average ERA+ is 173.2, compared to your 164.7. So you're right, it's not really that close. Perhaps you should do the arithmetic before making such sweeping statements.
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Postby philliesphhan » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:11 pm

Werthless wrote:
Shore wrote:5) Rules are rules. Had relief pitchers with limited experience been discouraged by rule (say, a minimum # of innings), I wouldn't have the same bullpen. As it stands, there's NO WAY anyone's bullpen has a ERA+ near mine. Not even close.

And that will help you in the sim, and hurt you in the vote. I like how you profess "I don't care about the vote," as a preemptive excuse in case your team isn't liked by others.

My bullpen average ERA+ is 173.2, compared to your 164.7. So you're right, it's not really that close. Perhaps you should do the arithmetic before making such sweeping statements.


I'm not sure I want there to be a vote after seeing Warszawa's posts. He "doesn't like" Hank Aaron. WTF?
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Postby Werthless » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:31 pm

philliesphhan wrote:
Werthless wrote:
Shore wrote:5) Rules are rules. Had relief pitchers with limited experience been discouraged by rule (say, a minimum # of innings), I wouldn't have the same bullpen. As it stands, there's NO WAY anyone's bullpen has a ERA+ near mine. Not even close.

And that will help you in the sim, and hurt you in the vote. I like how you profess "I don't care about the vote," as a preemptive excuse in case your team isn't liked by others.

My bullpen average ERA+ is 173.2, compared to your 164.7. So you're right, it's not really that close. Perhaps you should do the arithmetic before making such sweeping statements.


I'm not sure I want there to be a vote after seeing Warszawa's posts. He "doesn't like" Hank Aaron. WTF?

Haha. Sounds like Corky Simpson.
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Postby Warszawa » Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:19 pm

philliesphhan wrote:
Werthless wrote:
Shore wrote:5) Rules are rules. Had relief pitchers with limited experience been discouraged by rule (say, a minimum # of innings), I wouldn't have the same bullpen. As it stands, there's NO WAY anyone's bullpen has a ERA+ near mine. Not even close.

And that will help you in the sim, and hurt you in the vote. I like how you profess "I don't care about the vote," as a preemptive excuse in case your team isn't liked by others.

My bullpen average ERA+ is 173.2, compared to your 164.7. So you're right, it's not really that close. Perhaps you should do the arithmetic before making such sweeping statements.


I'm not sure I want there to be a vote after seeing Warszawa's posts. He "doesn't like" Hank Aaron. WTF?


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Postby SteveJeltzPhanClub » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:28 pm

I think this team sports the best infield in all the draft.

Campy at C, Pujols at 1B, Utley at 2B, Boggs at 3B, and AROD at SS.

That's unfair :)
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