SIXERS: A -25.0% chance at being good again (R.I.P. HINK)

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Postby Grotewold » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:07 pm

pacino wrote:I read it so you don't have to. Marcus Hayes wrote an Anti-hinkie piece. It distorts known facts about the departure, rails on Daryl Morey, and says Hibkie quit on the team because he was too arrogant.


Can't wait to see if these hacks apply the same pressure to Harris, and to a lesser extent Jerry, that they did Hinkie
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Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:12 pm

You can tell from their reactions that fans still supported Hinkie and his plan. This is in stark contrast to Chip Kelly's departure.

Something about this Hinkie news just doesn't sit well with Philly fans.
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Postby Gimpy » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:15 pm

Because he got pretty openly stabbed in the back and was replaced with the boss's son. Chip was given the world and kept demanding more without delivering returns.
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Postby gr » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:34 pm

For those of you who read the Hinkie letter, what did you like/dislike about it? I know a few of you have weighed in, but interested in everyone's view of it, as an "argument" or message? Outside of who leaked it and all that nonsense.
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Postby pacino » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:37 pm

I really enjoyed the basketball portion of it. I'm not that into reading quotes from billionaires, so the first few pages were not that interesting to me. I don't feel I received some huge insight into his mind outside of how we already know he thinks about the game of basketball and how to grow a franchise.
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Postby CalvinBall » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:43 pm

felt like his robert convington stuff was a bit out there. if he was going to be a huge miss, coupled with his praise for grant and holmes, maybe this dude isnt really good at finding talent.
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Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:47 pm

CalvinBall wrote:felt like his robert convington stuff was a bit out there. if he was going to be a huge miss, coupled with his praise for grant and holmes, maybe this dude isnt really good at finding talent.


That's a valid argument. Was there any evidence to suggest that Hinkie was good at finding talent, based on what we've seen the last 3 seasons.
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Postby Grotewold » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:47 pm

CalvinBall wrote:felt like his robert convington stuff was a bit out there. if he was going to be a huge miss, coupled with his praise for grant and holmes, maybe this dude isnt really good at finding talent.


It's an open question, since two of three important picks (Noel, Embiid) were no-brainers in the context of this plan, and it seems at least 50% likely the owners or circumstances required Okafor.

MCW, KJ, Covington, Grant, Holmes -- more good than bad, I think

Sucks we couldn't at least keep his value assessing and deal making
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Postby MoBettle » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:48 pm

It's "good" in that it's a fun and interesting read that shines light on his perspective but it's also a crazy letter to send to your bosses when you are quitting.

If he wrote it for grantland or whatever it wouldn't be as weird.
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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:49 pm

I think his record in the second round and with undrafted guys is pretty fantastic. if you don't, maybe you're not considering just how low the contribution rate for second rounders is?
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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:51 pm

I think the first 5 or 6 pages should've been condensed into 2 or 3, but for the most part I thought the letter was great with a lot of interesting stuff
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Postby laf837 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:53 pm

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I think his record in the second round and with undrafted guys is pretty fantastic. if you don't, maybe you're not considering just how low the contribution rate for second rounders is?


Most teams don't have room for 2nd rounders. I love Cov and got my kid his jersey but he's not great by any stretch.
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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:56 pm

I don't think he's great (although last offseason I had pretty high hopes for him). I think he's around the top 5% or so as far as value from a 2nd round/undrafted player
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Postby laf837 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:59 pm

I guess. I just think that you can probably put a bunch of 2nd round/UDFA talent in a hat and hit if you have open spots and ability to give them time - especially on a team not interested in winning. There is a lot of players with talent out there.
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Postby pacino » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:06 pm

wasn't that exactly what he set up to try to do? that's exactly why he didn't want to tie up money, so he could churn
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Postby laf837 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:17 pm

Yep. I'm not questioning the process or the rationale in doing that. He did fine in that regard, I just don't think it was a demonstration of a unique eye for talent.
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Postby CFP » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:43 pm

Let's pile on some more #$!&@ news:

http://www.tmz.com/2016/04/08/nerlens-n ... h-threats/
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Postby MoBettle » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:45 pm

What the #$!&@ #$!&@
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Postby slugsrbad » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:48 pm

Not to excuse his behavior, but why would you ever rent your house to a 21 year old? Especially a wealthy one?
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Postby Grotewold » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:48 pm

CFP wrote:Let's pile on some more #$!&@ news:

http://www.tmz.com/2016/04/08/nerlens-n ... h-threats/


should of posted andre miller up
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