Rolling Phillies Injury and Conditioning Updates

Postby FTN » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:54 pm

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Postby CFP » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:02 am

Rotoworld post says Victorino thought he heard a "pop"
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Postby FTN » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:03 am

ColeforPresident wrote:Rotoworld post says Victorino thought he heard a "pop"


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Postby Bakestar » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:06 am

All the #$!&@ pops and tears on this team, when they gon' start rollin' with Snap and Crackle?
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Postby FTN » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:06 am

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Postby MoBettle » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:08 am

Bakestar wrote:All the $#@! pops and tears on this team, when they gon' start rollin' with Snap and Crackle?


or locking and dropping it.
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Postby Phan In Phlorida » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:33 am

ColeforPresident wrote:Rotoworld post says Victorino thought he heard a "pop"


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Shane Victorino will undergo an MRI Tuesday after injuring his right calf during Monday's victory. The Phillies' right fielder said he heard a pop, which makes a DL stint fairly likely. Michael Bourn will take over in right field, assuming that he can overcome the ankle sprain he suffered tonight. The Phillies also have Greg Dobbs as an option there. They might try to pick up a Bobby Kielty-type cheap before the deadline.
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Postby BigEd76 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:35 am

But where did Rotoworld get that from? There's no article reference in that one...
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Postby FTN » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:37 am

Rick Sutcliffe told Rotoworld
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Postby momadance » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:39 am

BigEd76 wrote:But where did Rotoworld get that from? There's no article reference in that one...


Maybe here?

Victorino strained his right calf trying to beat out a double play in the fourth inning and will have a precautionary MRI exam on Tuesday. He said he felt it pop when he was running.

"I know Shane's hurting right now," Rowand said. "I think Shane's might be a little more serious than Mike's. Hopefully it's not as bad as it looks."
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Postby 1 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:50 am

Laexile wrote:
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Laexile wrote:After playing Wednesday and Thursday for Clearwater, Jayson Werth didn't play last night. If he were still rehabbing, he'd play. So he either aggrevated the injury or will be activated.


A poster on Philaphans spoke with Werth in Clearwater a couple of nights ago. Werth told him he may be done due to his wrist.

Take it FWIW.

If Werth said that, I'd guess he won't be back. No one knows your body better than you do. That eases a roster problem.


Well, Werth played last night, so there's that.
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Postby Trent Steele » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:00 am

jp_chips wrote:I rather see Greg Jacobs from Reading get an oppurtunity other than Roberson.


I'm pretty sure Jacobs is LH, which doesn't really help. They could use Dobbs in RF against RHP. With 3 straight LHP coming up, they need someone who can bat RH the play RF. Jeff Conine, anyone?
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Postby Philssj » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:23 am

Trent Steele wrote:
jp_chips wrote:I rather see Greg Jacobs from Reading get an oppurtunity other than Roberson.


I'm pretty sure Jacobs is LH, which doesn't really help. They could use Dobbs in RF against RHP. With 3 straight LHP coming up, they need someone who can bat RH the play RF. Jeff Conine, anyone?


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Postby CFP » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:40 am

I had read that Werth was actually doing terribly down in Clearwater on rehab. Not just the numbers (1 for 10 heading into last night, could mean nothing if he's hitting the ball hard) but that he was actually in pain swinging the bat. If Werth retires I wouldn't be shocked.
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Postby BigEd76 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:31 am

Madson:

"The MRI was not severe," Amaro reported. "It will probably be 2 or 3 weeks without throwing and at least a month without being able to participate at the major league level."

Asked if he expected Madson to be able to pitch again this year, Amaro replied with an emphatic, "Yes."
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Postby Squire » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:39 am

BigEd76 wrote:Madson:

"The MRI was not severe," Amaro reported. "It will probably be 2 or 3 weeks without throwing and at least a month without being able to participate at the major league level."

Asked if he expected Madson to be able to pitch again this year, Amaro replied with an emphatic, "Yes."


I read that too and thought that the author needed to explain Amaro's answer better. Is the "month without being able to participate at the major league level" start now or does it start after the 2-3 weeks without throwing?

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Postby BigEd76 » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:48 am

Sounds like 2-3 weeks of rest, a week of easy throwing and maybe a week of minor league rehab
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Postby FTN » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:30 pm

The Phillies made lots of little moves, enough to keep them in it, but they couldn't figure out how to keep their outfielders healthy. Michael Bourn and Shane Victorino injured themselves within minutes of each other in what might be the final straw for the Phillies' hopes. Victorino went down first with a Grade II calf strain. If you've noticed that he's a little more reckless this year, just look to center field where Aaron Rowand might have been selling his brand of baseball to the younger crowd. The speedy Victorino doesn't figure to be on the DL much longer than the minimum, but this injury is something that can recur.

Bourn's injury might not sound as bad--a sprained ankle--but because of how he plays, this might be worse. Bourn is nearly a pure speed player and anything that reduces that speed--especially if there was any compromise in the ligaments--could be the start of a cascade. The Phillies will have to resist putting him out there at much less than 100%. The fact is, the most significant guy for the Phillies this year might be former trainer Jeff Cooper. I don't think they realized just how much they'd miss him.


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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:32 pm

Yeah, because our player's fitness and recovery time has always been spectacular before this year.
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Postby FTN » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:00 pm

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